Legislature(2017 - 2018)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/07/2017 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Postponed to 1:45 p.m. --
+ HB 48 ARCHITECTS,ENGINEERS,SURVEYORS: EXTEND BD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 50 INCREASE STUDDED TIRE FEE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 31 NO ST. EMPLOYEE PAY INCREASE FOR 2 YRS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 31 Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 48                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the  composition of the State Board                                                                    
     of  Registration for  Architects,  Engineers, and  Land                                                                    
     Surveyors; extending the termination  date of the State                                                                    
     Board  of Registration  for Architects,  Engineers, and                                                                    
     Land Surveyors; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:55:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BIANCA   CARPENETI,   STAFF,    REPRESENTATIVE   SAM   KITO,                                                                    
introduced the legislation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:57:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRIS CURTIS, AUDITOR, LEGISLATIVE  AUDIT, explained that the                                                                    
purpose  of a  sunset  audit was  to  determine whether  the                                                                    
board  was  serving  the public  interest,  and  whether  it                                                                    
served the  public interest.  She stated  that it  was found                                                                    
that  the  State  Board   of  Registration  for  Architects,                                                                    
Engineers,  and Land  Surveyors (AELS  Board) did  serve the                                                                    
public's interest by  effectively registering and regulating                                                                    
architects, engineers, and land surveyors.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof remarked that  the fiscal note had $29,600                                                                    
included in the  governor's FY 18 request,  and the out-year                                                                    
estimates  had approximately  the  same  number. She  stated                                                                    
that  the   funds  would  be  covered   with  receipts.  Ms.                                                                    
Carpeneti replied in the affirmative.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon commented  on  Ms. Carpeneti's  family's                                                                    
service to the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:00:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COLIN MAYNARD,  AELS BOARD, ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),                                                                    
shared  that he  was available  for questions.  He announced                                                                    
that there  was a desire to  keep a balance in  the funds to                                                                    
deal with a possible case.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  wondered why  it  is  wondered why  the                                                                    
board  required a  face-to-face meeting  four times  a year.                                                                    
Mr.  Maynard  replied  that  two  people  must  review  each                                                                    
application.  He   stated  that   it  was  easier   to  make                                                                    
determinations  when  in the  same  place,  rather than  via                                                                    
teleconference.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:02:44 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:03:54 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:04:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELE  ELFERS, BOARD  MEMBER,  ALASKA PROFESSIONAL  DESIGN                                                                    
COUNCIL,  JUNEAU,  testified  in  support of  the  bill  and                                                                    
support of  providing a permanent  board seat  for landscape                                                                    
architects.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson queried  the number  of landscape  architects                                                                    
versus the  number of architects  and engineers.  Ms. Elfers                                                                    
announced   that  there   were  approximately   50  licensed                                                                    
landscape  architects in  the state.  She did  not know  the                                                                    
number  of architects  or engineers.  She shared  that there                                                                    
were also approximately 50 licensed  mining engineers in the                                                                    
state, and they had representation on the AELS Board.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:06:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANEY   HOVENDEN,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF   CORPORATIONS,                                                                    
BUSINESS,   AND   PROFESSIONAL  LICENSING,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY  AND ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT,  introduced                                                                    
herself.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  queried the number of  licensees in each                                                                    
of the individual professional licensures.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:07:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALICIA JONES, EXECUTIVE  ADMINISTRATOR, BOARD OF ARCHITECTS,                                                                    
ENGINEERS,  AND  LAND  SURVEYORS, replied  that  there  were                                                                    
approximately   3000   civil   engineers;   843   mechanical                                                                    
engineers;  approximately 50  landscape architects;  and 476                                                                    
land  surveyors.  She  agreed to  provide  further  detailed                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  wondered whether  the licensing  fee was                                                                    
the same  for each profession.  She stressed that  there was                                                                    
travel associated  with each  position. Ms.  Jones responded                                                                    
that the fees were the same regardless of profession.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof noted that page  5 of the audit had a list                                                                    
of  the different  types of  architects  and engineers.  She                                                                    
noted that page 8 showed the different fees.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  noted that page  7 of the audit  showed an                                                                    
increased ending  cumulative surplus, with the  exception of                                                                    
2013.  He wondered  whether there  was a  reimbursement with                                                                    
the excess revenue. Ms. Hovenden  noted that the surplus was                                                                    
growing,  and the  fees were  slightly  reduced. She  stated                                                                    
that there was a hope to  keep a "buffer." She stressed that                                                                    
the lowered fees would slowly deplete the surplus.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  queried  the definition  of  "they."  Ms.                                                                    
Hovenden replied that it was the board.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon   surmised    that   statute   required                                                                    
professional licensing to pay for  itself, so there was some                                                                    
fluctuation  over time  in  account  balances. Ms.  Hovenden                                                                    
agreed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Jones revised  her  previous  statement, and  clarified                                                                    
that there  was a difference  in the fees between  those who                                                                    
applied by exam versus those who applied by committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hovenden  shared that all  the licensures fees  were the                                                                    
same.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon queried  the  fee  amount. Ms.  Hovenden                                                                    
replied that the fee was $150 for two years.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon wondered  whether there  was a  discount                                                                    
for licensing  two years out.  Ms. Hovenden replied  that it                                                                    
was a set fee for two years.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon queried comments.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:12:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAM  KITO, SPONSOR, stated that  the bill was                                                                    
basically a  sunset provision, with the  one specific change                                                                    
to allow for a permanent  AELS Board position to a landscape                                                                    
architect.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop addressed FN 1: CED.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon announced that amendments were due by                                                                        
Monday at 5pm.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SB 48 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:15:44 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:16:36 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 48 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 48
HB 48 Supporting Document Sunset Audit.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 48
HB 48 Supporting Letters.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 48
SB 50 Public Testimony Erickson.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SEN Finance_Studded Tire Presentation_07April2017_final_Amended.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Northwest Tire Dealers Assoc. Letter.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Support All 3-2017.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Opposition All 3-2017.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Tire Cost Comparison.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Admin Responses.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Statute References.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Legal Opinion version J.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Summary ISER study 2004.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Summary Oregon Study 2000.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Summary Washtington Study 2002.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Summary Oregon Study 2014.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Sectional Analysis ver J.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Backup Document Craig Medred Article.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Backup Document Randal O'Toole article.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Backup Document Transportation Research Record Article by Brunette and Lundy.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Backup Document Alaska Infrastructure Report Card 2017 - Roads Section.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50
SB 50 Public Testimony Reiner.pdf SFIN 4/7/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 50